Slatery joins states’ legal effort to overturn presidential election

State Attorney General Herbert Slatery, right, speaks with Rep. Jerry Sexton (R-Bean Station) on the House floor in Nashville on Feb. 3, 2020. (Erik Schelzig, Tennessee Journal)

Tennessee Attorney General Herbert Slatery is joining an amicus brief supporting a Texas lawsuit seeking to overturn the result of the presidential election to sway it in President Donald Trump’s favor.

“The Tennessee Attorney General’s Office has consistently taken the position that only a State’s legislature has the authority to make and change election laws,” Slatery said in a statement. “This Office pressed that argument in cases defending Tennessee’s election laws against pandemic-related challenges and in amicus briefs in cases involving similar challenges in other courts. This is not something new.”

Slatery’s office this year fought efforts to allow anyone afraid of contracting COVID-19 to cast absentee ballots. The state lost at the chancery court level, allowing the looser restrictions on mail-in balloting to take effect for the primary. The state Supreme Court later overturned the the decision, but only after the AG’s office reversed course to say anyone with an underlying health condition making them more susceptible to COVID-19 (or anyone living with someone who did) could cast absentee ballots.

A Trump-appointed federal judge also ruled Tennessee couldn’t enforce its rules this year requiring first-time voters who registered online to cast their ballots in person.

Senate Minority Leader Jeff Yarbro (D-Nashville) called Slatery’s move a “low point in the history of the office of the Tennessee Attorney General. “

“Here’s the context: The Attorney General in Texas is under FBI investigation and widely assumed to be fishing for a pardon” Yarbro said on Twitter. “Now the Tennessee Attorney General is spending Tennessee resources to help?”

82 Responses to Slatery joins states’ legal effort to overturn presidential election

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    Bird says:

    What an absolute coward Slatery is. He knows the TX lawsuit is a political stunt with literally zero chance of being successful, but he succumbed to the pressure of the General Assembly’s resident dumb ass caucus.

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    Henry Walker says:

    Note that the Tennessee is not joining the suit as the headline says but, as the story notes, joining an amicus brief filed by the Missouri AG. As the story also notes, our AG says that the amicus brief takes the position that only a state legislature–not a court or a secretary of state–can amend a state’s election laws and that our AG has consistently taken that same position. That’s very misleading. Again, as the story notes, in the Tennessee litigation over whether to allow people to vote absentee during the virus, the State changed its position between the time the case was argued in Chancery Court and the time it was argued in the State Supreme Court. Initially, the State argued said that no one could vote absentee, even if you or a member of your family had an underlying condition, because there was no specific category in state law that allowed such people to vote absentee and because the Tennessee legislature had recently rejected attempts to broaden the absentee voting law during the virus. This argument was rejected by the Chancellor and would likely have been rejected by the Supreme Court as well. Therefore, in precisely the kind of compromise solution that the amicus brief condemns, the Attorney General and his client, the Secretary of State wisely “reinterpreted” state election law to say that people who have an underlying condition or who live with people who have underlying conditions may vote absentee but that people who have only a general fear of getting sick still must vote in person. The Supreme Court found that a reasonable position. According to the amicus brief, however, that kind of departure from the literal language of state election law violates the US Constitution.

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    Frank Gibson says:

    It is none of the TN AG’s frigging business. He totally misinterprets what Volunteer in Volunteer State stands for — not kissing up to a dictator wannabee’s unbalanced desires. Suppose he’ll support the pardons when they get done.

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      MARLE says:

      The point of joining is to show support. In this case it is also to avoid the slings and arrows that would surely come TN’s way if they didn’t do as Trump wants. Yet another display of profiles in courage.

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    LeeAnn C says:

    Great news! Past time for patriots to uphold the ntegrity of our elections!

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      McSwanson McSweeney says:

      An absurd comment, on its face. What a genuine tragedy that so many Americans would deprive so many others of their voice and vote. It’s super sad. And ethically bankrupt…. More or less in line with the last four years.

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        LeeAnn C. says:

        Over 70 million people voted for President Trump. Thousands have sworn affidavits of improprieties in several states. It is morally bankrupt to attempt to sweep election improprieties under the rug. An absurd tragedy that anyone wouldn’t want answers to the many questions regarding the integrity of the election. But many choose ignorance rather than explore reasonable questions. Polls indicate as many as 70% of respondents of north political parties believe inappropriate activity is involved in the election. No one deserves deprivation of their voice. You apparently want to dictate silence.

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          McSwanson McSweeney says:

          Oh, FFS. You do not know what you are talking about, you parrot.

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          MARLE says:

          I believe that there is election fraud in EVERY election. I believe every traffic light has been run, and every store has been shoplifted, and every mile of highway has been traveled in excess of the speed limit.

          But fraud has never overturned an election. And any challenge does not cost 300+M to make. This is a fund raiser disguised as a legal defense fund. Rather than influence elections with his own money, going forward, Trump has raised the money he will need to lead Rep around by the nose for the next several cycles.

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          David Thomas says:

          And yet not one single piece of evidence produced in over 50 Court cases!

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    Birchall Barnes says:

    New low point for Tennessee!

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    Reta Adams says:

    This is disgraceful! I love my Tennessee where I was born and raised. This is not the same place. Shame on the AG!

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      Phillip Lassiter says:

      Go cash some much undeserved retirement checks and shut up

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      Stuart I. Anderson says:

      No Reta, what you love is the government of the State of Tennessee in control of center-left Democrats and a center right Republican Party providing ineffectual opposition. Indeed, “This is not the same place” and ever since my arrival in this great state in the spring of 1992 I am proud to say that I have spent a lot of money and time in order to bring about that much needed change..

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    Charles says:

    This type of attitude in not good for democracy. Biden won – by over 7 million votes. Sore losers!

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    Jonathan Swift says:

    Is everyone here as tired of this crap as I am? Don’t Republicans have better things to do, instead of acting like a 4-year-old that dropped his ice cream cone?

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      Stuart I. Anderson says:

      Our elections are a cesspool of corruption and abuse that have long been an accepted part of the way things are especially in our large Democratic controlled cities. It’s long past time that our elections were the subject of micro-analysis to, at the very least, discourage the same level of corruption and abuse in the future.

      Added to our traditional corruption and abuse we have the Democrats doing everything they can over a number of years attempting to eliminate what control and oversight over elections that we do have. In 2020 we had a new twist with Big Tech and the Mainstream Media actually suppressing stories that were harmful to the Biden campaign.

      As Hillary famously said “I ain’t tired. . . .” because we are losing our democracy and it’s about time we stop the losing.

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        MARLE says:

        The election process needs to be secure. And whatever court ruling will dictate that is needed. But that process can go on without it being linked to Trump. The cases have been thrown out left and right either b/c there is NOT sufficient evidence of fraud levels that would have changed the outcome OR b/c the cases have been poorly presented. (altho the lead attorney is billing $20K per day).

        In either case this whole election issue can be carefully crafted with well considered and presented briefs but that is apparently not of importance to Trump. He wants whatever can keep him seated and that means it needs to be thrown together ASAP.

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    David Collins says:

    Slatery is a disgrace to the State of Tennessee and to the legal profession as a whole. It is a violation of an attorney’s oath to file or participate in frivolous lawsuits. When are the bodies charged with enforcing the ethical rules on attorneys going to take action and sanction, suspend and/or disbar lawyers who flaunt these rules? That is really the only way to stop this nonsense of clogging the court system with baseless lawsuits. Why is he wasting our tax dollars participating in such crap. He should be fired!

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    Taxpayer #314 says:

    “The cesspool of corruption and abuse” that Stuart speaks about is exactly what the republicans are guilty of with these absurd legal demands and laughable lawsuits they continue to file and loose. The GOP is leading and refining the corruption and voter suppression that goes on in this country and has been for many years. They so desperately want the public to believe their ridiculous lies. Trump lost the election by a landslide, Biden won, get over it. Stuart, you can blame “Big Tech and the Mainstream Media” if that makes you feel better, but don’t forget the boogey man.

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    Phillip Lassiter says:

    Supreme Court needs to stop the election. Good riddance to igno Dems

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    Taxpayer #314 says:

    No one is being robbed of their VOICE or their VOTE. The vote was held, as advertised, and everyone had a chance to vote and indeed, the US had a record turnout. Individuals and many groups voiced their disapproval with the outcome and demanded recounts and filed lawsuits asking the courts to rule on many different issues during and after the vote. Recounts were held, GA recounted their vote totals FOUR times and were within a few votes of the original count. The outcome of the election is clear – Biden won by a landslide, Trump lost by a landslide, vote totals checked and double checked, numerous courts heard all sorts of objections until they got just ridiculous. The Election is over, decided, done! End of story.

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      LeeAnn C. says:

      Yes, everyone had a vote. Some more than one. Some deceased. Some in more than one state. Recounting the same ballots isn’t going to change much. The issue is the validity of those ballots, especially those mailed in without signature verification. Watch and listen to the testimony of those that were there. Or trying to be as registered poll watchers. The biggest jumps in voting tabulations occurred when observers were booted out of the room. If these statements are not fully explored, there will be no acceptance of the election results. It’s to everyone’s advantage to investigate.

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    Phillip Lassiter says:

    Oh come on. This whole mail in vote thing fueled by Covid BS stole the election. It’s all common sense if you take off your big guvment glasses or aren’t in the 1%

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      MARLE says:

      Covid BS? Why didn’t Trump and Giuliani and Carson just take a couple of tylenol instead of the rare combination of Dexamethasone, remdesivir and Monoclonal antibodies (something denied those who are dying at 1 every 32 seconds in the US)?

      No big deal then none of these people should have gotten specialized drugs unavailable to the rest of Americans. They all should have treated their Covid BS with 2 aspirin or a dose of Hydroxychloroquine which they all touted back in the summer and see how things would turn out. Curiously none of them chose that route.

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    Taxpayer #314 says:

    Phillip, you didn’t offer any proof of anything you said. You can’t just “wish” away the results of a nationwide election because you don’t like the outcome. Trump has claimed every dumb defense you regurgitate and he is 1-51 in the courts. His one win in court got his vote observers a few feet closer to the vote counters which changed nothing in the count, a moot point. So, 51 attempts to challenge different voter laws in different ways and in different courts and in different states and he was laughed out of court in EVERY ONE of those cases. This last suit is also a joke and an attempt to OVERRULE an election. It too will fail, just like Trump.

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    Cannoneer2 says:

    Tennessee helped found the state of Texas. Slatery should be leading litigation rather than adopting his usual me-too, follow along style. We should expect much more from the highest paid state Attorney General in the nation.

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    Taxpayer #314 says:

    There are rules in every state that apply specifically to mail in ballots, but nobody changed any of the rules during the election. What makes this difficult is that every state holds their own vote and the states each have their own rules about their election, we have no standardization. Some states like mail in voting and others don’t but we all should have the same standards in how & when we vote. 50 different ways of voting is just asking for trouble. We should have national standards of registering to vote, similar deadlines for all vote processing etc.
    LeeAnne says “The issue is the validity of the votes,” but there were not anywhere near enough questionable votes to change the outcome of the election. I don’t like the ambiguity any more than LeeAnne but the OUTCOME of the election and the governing rules did NOT change.

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      James White says:

      The issue is the Legislature makes the rules, not courts not governors. If one of them changes the rules (laws) then they acted unconstitutional. Even Tennessee did this very thing.
      “SECTION. 4. 1The Times, Places and Manner of
      holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the
      Legislature thereof;”
      Note the US constitution does not give this power to the state courts or the state executive department.
      That is the issue.

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        James White says:

        Stuart:
        The Trump campaign is also on board with the lawsuit; the president has reportedly asked Senator Ted Cruz, a former Texas solicitor general, to argue the latest case before the Supreme Court.

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          MARLE says:

          Would that be “lyin Ted”? That’s the guy Trump said “holds up a bible and then lies, lies, lies”.

          And then there’s what Rubio said about Trump…”he’s a con artist” (that was one of the kindest things he said). Or Graham who said “he’s a pathological liar and a narcisist” (he said lots more in addition to saying, while choking back tears, that Biden was “the finest man that God ever created”.

          Were they lying about him then or have they capitulated in service of their political ambitions?

          AND let’s not chalk any of this up to “what politicians say in election cycles”. No opponent of W or Romney or McCain EVER said things like this.

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            Stuart I. Anderson says:

            Donald Trump needlessly generates rancor, that’s one of the reasons I dislike him and you can’t stand him but others LOVE him. For that little personality tic he underperformed Republicans as a whole as apparently enough found him so totally unacceptable as President as to not even consider his policy prescriptions vs. Biden’s so he will join Jimmy Carter and “Lips” Bush as a one term President. We have the “crime” and we have the “punishment.” We can now move on and hope that Republicans who made the mistake in voting for him in the 2016 primary will be wiser in 2024.

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            MARLE says:

            “Fear of Injury to Career” is, for those lacking any profile-in-courage gene, a powerful magnet that draws the likes of rubio, cruz, and graham to the Trump orbit.

            Now that Trump has created a 300+ slush fund he can call the tune for these ambitious politicians to dance to until the money runs out. And by the time the money runs out he will have solidified his messaging machine beyond Twitter.

            So I don’t look for his sphere of influence to shrink UNLESS Republicans grow a spine and a brain.

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            Stuart I. Anderson says:

            There is no reason for a Republican public official to alienate Trump or the Trumpidians by not going along with the program and support Trump in his challenges to the election in various states. Eventually, the challenges will be adjudicated at which point the trick will be for these officials to chart a record in opposition that gives them something to talk about in 2024 assuming they have Presidential ambitions while continuing to not alienate the Trumpidians.

            As for Trump, the Republican rank-and-file will either want the Republican Party to move on or they won’t. I can’t believe that the Trump act has staying power, but I have been wrong and/or disappointed before. If the Republican electorate cannot break their love affair with Trump, Republicans will lose again in 2024 and this time it very well could be for a normal eight year Presidential run which will make twelve years of a Democratic Presidency. A hideous thought indeed, but “. . .if that’s all there is, if that’s all there is, if that’s all there is my friend, let’s keep dancing.”

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            MARLE says:

            Whoever runs 4 years from now will not be running against Biden. He has achieved his goal (or should I say his wife’s goal). He is long overdue for a nap.

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            MARLE says:

            And Stuart I don’t see Scott DesJarlais’s name on the amicus group but I do see M Green.
            Shouldn’t all High-heritage guys sort of want Fraud exposed and a Stolen Election returned to its rightful owner or at least want the Supreme Court to rule?

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            Stuart I. Anderson says:

            Great question MARLE. In the game of politics one always has to be thinking ahead. Scott DesJarlais (Heritage-87%) has no desire other than to serve the people of the Fourth District of Tennessee, and his Heritage score serves as proof that he doing so outstandingly, so he needn’t go to ostentatious lengths to garner favor from the Trumpidians. My congressman, the Magnificent Mark Green (Heritage-100%!) has ambitions for bigger and better things other than having the privilege of being my congressman. Indeed, he is watching Hagerty’s Heritage score even closer than I, if you know what I mean. Thus, Mark has to be very careful and be favorably thought of in Trumpidian circles given the inexplicable popularity President Blowhard still garners here in Tennessee.

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            MARLE says:

            And that is why, Stuart, heritage scores are not all that predictive or reliable or well founded. Politicians move and sway with the palace intrigue. add to that the votes they cast, if they are party loyalists, is dependent of what the Leader demands. These scores are unnecessary and presumptive of nothing. But everyone has to eat so I you want your heart your mind, and your money to go to heritage then who am I?

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            Stuart I. Anderson says:

            The Heritage/ACU and similar scores are very useful for getting a handle on how each member of a legislature ideologically voted in the past and therefore is invaluable to those of us who consider that very important in discussing the hundreds of people who currently serve or have served in the past. THAT’S ALL WE EXPECT. To complain that they can’t be used for something for which they were not intended is. . .”puzzling.”

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    Taxpayer #314 says:

    James White, in your comments towards the top of this page you stated that the issue was there were “thousands of sworn affidavits of improprieties in the voting, why do you try to deny the facts?” Now you say the issue is that “the legislature is making the rules, not the courts or governors.” Which issue are you discussing here? Like Trump, the argument changes according to the needs of the moment. The reality is that you and Trump’s Covid lawyer team don’t have any facts to back up any of the legal arguments they have made in court. That is why they are 0-51 for voting rights cases made in courts.

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      James White says:

      T314, there can be more than one issue. Corruption in the voting process brought on by illegal change of laws via executive/judicial branch. Two issues, one problem. I do not have faith in the SCOTUS, but who know… it ain’t over yet.

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        MARLE says:

        There are 6 conservatives on SCOTUS and half of them are Trump appointees cheered on by the Trumpians. How on earth are you going to make them just one more wrong headed group out to victimize the President. At some point don’t you all realize that EVERYBODY can’t be wrong and you are right?

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          James White says:

          John G. Roberts, Jr., Chief Justice of the United States,(appointed by a republican) is No Conservative. and doubts on Samuel A. Alito, Jr. also.

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            Stuart I. Anderson says:

            Please never forget Gorsuch who read sexual eccentrics into our civil rights laws because he thought they were sorta, kinda like racial minorities, aged, etc. Another “conservative” who on a given day decides he doesn’t want to be a conservative at particular time and place.

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    Kathy McPeak says:

    Stuart, I can think of nothing more politically hideous than the last four years, with the exception of the last four days.

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      Stuart I. Anderson says:

      Dear, dear Kathy such emotion. You are either a far left individual thoroughly unhappy living here in Tennessee, and/or you are one of those women who Trump forms a composite in your mind of every individual male with whom you had an unfortunate relation, and/or you were asleep during history class and you have no perspective as to how “politically hideous” things can get, and/or you simply have a lack of imagination.

      I don’t like Trump, as should be obvious by now, but I have always tried to maintain my perspective. At the end of the day I am interested in policy and Trump has had a center/right administration, somewhat more right in fits and starts than “Lips” and “Uniter” Bush’s administration, that’s all. I believe it’s a mistake to worship anyone, and it’s a mistake to allow your dislike for anyone to go overboard. I’m afraid, Kathy, you may be suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome which doesn’t effect Trump, but it can’t be healthy for you.

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    Taxpayer #314 says:

    You all do know that the SCOTUS just rejected the latest/last Trump lawsuit as “having NO standing and No merit.” Just another junk lawsuit, I believe that makes it something like 0-54. That is Trumps score that the looser will take with him and all the people that supported him through all this nonsense (see above) are now saying “we don’t like or trust “those” judges, they are not conservative enough. Apparently it is all the rest of us that are lacking somehow. Even a hand chosen court will defend democracy but Trump and his supporters will not, and that is on the GOP enablers, not Trump. The adults in the room need to accept responsibility for their actions. Let’s just hope this nonsense is over. Lets say it all together now…Biden Won, Trump Lost. Amen!

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      Stuart I. Anderson says:

      Indeed, now on to the investigations of the Biden Crime Family!

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        MARLE says:

        Why? Trump wasn’t interested in Family Crime at all. He spent months leading the “lock her up” chant only to turn down the prospect of any investigation just 10 days after being Elected in 2016.

        He has NO interest in Family Crime. NONE. If not Hillary; then nobody!

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        MARLE says:

        Believing he DID have an interest in stopping influence peddling to enrich oneself was one of the Reasons I voted for Trump in the first place. That and believing that the country who off loaded its criminals and illiterates should PAY for a boundary wall that contains them. And his declaration that the Fed should be off limits to harassment by the WH and that tax code loopholes should be eliminated.

        Yep…all good reasons for voting for him. Too bad he made good one NOT ONE of them.

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          Stuart I. Anderson says:

          I know this is hard to predict, but now that Trump is out of office do you have any idea when your own case of Trump Derangement Syndrome will at least be on its way to mitigation?

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            MARLE says:

            The truth about Trump is something in short supply around here. I only offer it in contrast to all those who want to chalk his loss up to women being disgruntled with him over the Bad-boyfriend syndrome.

            I hear on Fox they are blaming the media for keeping the Hunter Biden story quiet. Barr and his justice Dept took possession of that laptop over a year ago. THEY kept it relatively quiet to drop it as a last minute October Surprise. Every Time the Trumpians offer a lie to explain things I will be there with the truth. When most people deal in reality and the truth then I can back off. My derangement is with LYING. I hate it.

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            Stuart I. Anderson says:

            No, that’s not correct regarding Barr. On the contrary, the Attorney General decided to keep it quiet because he didn’t want the behavior of the Justice Dept. to be said to effect the election after the behavior of the Justice Dept. in the 2016 election that assisted Hillary.

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            MARLE says:

            The story broke in Oct 2020. The FBI took the laptop in Dec 2019.

            The story broke in print media, the NY Post which is the equivalent in print of Fox News on air in its biased reporting. Sources were cited as Steve Bannon and Rudy Giuliani who was at that time the President’s personal attorney.

            The leaking of that information was obviously tied to the people Of Record who took the laptop into their possession: The FBI which is part of the Justice Department headed by Barr

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        Taxpayer #314 says:

        Yeah, ALL the other “investigations” have failed so let’s get on to the next one that makes no sense. One would think this would get boring after a while with no results but carry on if you must. If there is a crime “family” you need look no further than the Trumps.

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          Stuart I. Anderson says:

          Still in a perpetual sense of confusion Taxpayer. THOSE investigations were about some fantastic story about Trump as a Russian asset, a story that has proven to be without foundation having been concocted by the Hillary campaign. This story is about the Biden Crime Family engaged in money laundering, fraud, racketeering and tax evasion as President-elect Big Man’s son and brother Jimmy were allegedly bag men selling the Big Man’s influence in Red China and other places.

          You know how good you are at righteous indignation when Republicans are caught engaging in sub-standard behavior Taxpayer. Well. after the indictments start coming in this will be your chance to burnish you Clean Government bona fides and show that you are more than a partisan hack by really letting the Biden Crime Family have a piece of your mind about corruption by those in high office.

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            MARLE says:

            All family crime (peddling influence for money IS NOT a crime thanks to legislators never making it so) is reprehensible.

            Having that peddling actually INFLUENCE an official’s behavior IS a crime.

            All substantial evidence of peddling should be investigated. Hillary is a prime example whose influence Peddling (she did the peddling, her foundation received the money AND she was a high official as Sec of State making recommendations for foreign policy and foreign aid). BUT TRUMP had ZERO interest in even investigating her.

            So …….what is so different in the Biden allegations, Stuart. Why investigate this IF Hillary was of ZERO concern

            Now as for me….I wanted Hillary investigated AND I want Hunter Biden investigated.

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            Stuart I. Anderson says:

            As you know MARLE, I’m intensely interested in making the Republican Party as resolutely conservative as the Democratic Party is Liberal, and getting resolute conservatives elected to office. On the other hand, I have little interest in investigations into skullduggery no matter who is the subject of the investigations.

            As far as I’m concerned, there is the law, there are professional organization tasked with enforcing the law, the law defines the crime and provides the punishment. Naturally I want to see the law enforced in an evenhanded way, but after that I leave it to the professionals. For example, I am not emotionally involved in Trumpidian’s/Trump’s suits against various state’s election officials. My only concern was in regards to the leftist partisans who did not want Trump to even have his day in court while they are the first ones through the court house door in an attempt to get the courts to do their bidding when they can’t get their way through the normal democratic process.

            Finally, I think it’s much to Trump’s credit in having no interest in investigating Clinton. It is in Third World tin pot despotisms that we find victorious pols pushing for the law to investigate losers. If you feel that Hillary got away with crime because of lack of investigation and/or prosecution your complaint is with the Justice Dept. whose investigatory arm is not supposed to be influenced by the President and Congress even though that separation I believe was ignored during the Obama regime re: Trump.

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    MARLE says:

    But he lied for months about his interest in investigating her. Having NO interest?????? He stood on a debate stage and told her she’d be in jail IF he were president. He had no interest b/c she was defeated. She apparently didn’t carp at him from the sidelines (a private deal?) and she didn’t get what he’d been promising for months.

    NOW, now that the subject of the investigation threat HAS defeated him. Oh, now he is going to investigate. And you find his behavior admirable? Really?

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      Stuart I. Anderson says:

      Sorry, now that Trump is no longer President, I have no interest in him until we get closer to 2024 and we see what he has up his sleeve. May the Lord bless those who have an interest or obsession with him, I’m not one of them. The last thing I want to spend my time doing is even attempting to connect the dots between what Trump says, especially while campaigning, what Trump did/does, what Trump really thinks. Perhaps there is an old Kremlinologist among us who wants to join you in that task I have to bow out.

      I look to the Georgia runoffs and the 2022 elections with intense interest. Trump is yesterday, and as far as I’m concerned yesterday’s gone.

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        MARLE says:

        You don’t want to spend the time b.c the effort will only reveal that for 4 years you have defended every lie he has told and every policy that flew in the face of his campaign platform. If I defended him at every turn I’d want to forget this episode as well. Calling him a jerk and a loudmouth is irrelevant b/c it is not at the heart of the problems with him…the problems that made him a one term president were not those things.

        What defeated him was not democrats but those educated white males who voted for him in spite of his personna but could not tolerate 4 more yrs of erractic, illogical policy management.

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        Stuart I. Anderson says:

        I defended Trump’s policies when they reflected conservative policy prescriptions, after all I’m a conservative and I am fabulous at separating what I think of a politician personally and the policies he follows. Thankfully, not all of us are obsessed with Trump Derangement Syndrome so as a result, one way or another, no matter the topic, we work in a criticism of Trump. To say that I was a defender of “. . .every lie he has told and every policy that flew in the face of his campaign platform” is laughably absurd, so we will simply have to agree to disagree on that one.

        As for the reason for Trump losing, that’s an interesting topic with some relevance for the future. I understand your personal anecdotal reason for believing that it was educated males that cost Trump the election but I have not read or heard of anyone else who agrees with your analysis. On the other hand, Trump’s “difficulty” with the ladies, especially educated single ladies, is generally thought of as Trump’s Achilles’ heel and it is what came close to ending his political career in 2016 and succeeded in hopefully ending his career in 2020.

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          MARLE says:

          The Stat on white college age Males is from Reuters, USA today, the Brookings institute, every national outlet ABC CBS NBC. The reason that YOU never heard it is that Tucker is not happy to share that problem with his audience who would be DIS-pleased. And ratings are at risk.

          You understand how that goes. Never tell the truth or share bad news if it will hurt you professionally. You support that in politicians and in media. Not everyone adheres to this but it is quite obvious that the overwhelming majority of Trump supporters do.

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            MARLE says:

            And that is only a partial list. I thought EVERYbody knew this so I didn’t keep track of all of the sources. It’s been a month since the post election voter exit analysis was front and center

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            MARLE says:

            AND white suburban women who voted for Trump in 2016 voted in the same percentages for him in 2020. He did not lose that cohort.

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    Stuart I. Anderson says:

    For those of you who have been curious how President-Elect “Big Man” could become a multi-millionaire after the lifetime of government “service” tonight at 4 PM on FOX News you will see a re-airing of the interview Tucker Carlson had with a businessman who was involved in a business deal with the Biden Crime Family in China.

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      MARLE says:

      Why would you watch that when you don’t care about Family Crime any more than era-2016 Trump did? Skullduggery you don’t care one whit about, isn’t that how you characterized it?

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        Stuart I. Anderson says:

        “. . .[D]on’t care one wit. . .” and “. . .have little interest in. . .” are different and that explains why the prospect of “Big Man’s” administration being tied up in investigations the way the Trump’s administration was distracted makes me giddy in anticipation. It isn’t the details of the investigations themselves, it’s the distraction and the bleeding of political support that they involve that accounts for my interest and enthusiasm.

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          MARLE says:

          Giddy with anticipation. I was not giddy at all over Trump’s administration being distracted. I did not want a Russian investigation. But you are giddy over this. Perfect! That is truly the difference between partisans and non-partisans and their reactions. Based on nothing but party loyalty.

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            Stuart I. Anderson says:

            Well, not exactly “nothing.” On the contrary, it is based on my desire for this country to go back to what it was intended to be , a country with a small government with as little power as possible in order for individuals to have as much individual liberty as possible while pursuing a nationalistic foreign policy exclusively concerned with this country’s best interests, against the forces of the left who want to maximize government power at the expense of individuals and want to confiscate the wealth of those who earn it in order to buy votes of those who don’t and regard themselves as “citizens of the world” as they follow a foreign policy that reflects that feeling.

            Not at all about Party. Yet, it’s not by any means “nothing.”

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            Stuart I. Anderson says:

            Therefore any time the forces of the left are deprived of power, or upon gaining power are prevented from turning this country into an uninteresting social democratic republic weakened in the face of Communist China and Russia I’m “giddy.”

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    MARLE says:

    Maybe the reason the media kept all of this hidden is so Kamla Harris could become president when Biden is impeached in a couple of weeks post inauguration. Kamla couldn’t have won on her own but Biden could. So the media kept this hidden until now.

    Where is that theory circulating among the tin foil hat crowd?

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    Stuart I. Anderson says:

    I have to apologize. It has come to my attention that the new President to be wasn’t called the “Big Man” in the Biden Crime Family but rather the “Big Guy.” So I stand corrected. From now “President (Elect) Big Guy” it is!

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    Taxpayer #314 says:

    A pile of rubbish, Stuart. Yeah, Trump is gone so just forget him real quick and never talk about him again. Lets move on to suppression of voters in GA as the SEC of State is doing right now by cutting out many voting places solely in Democratic areas of Georgia. The Republicans just can’t stop the dirty tricks. Get on with the investigations of anybody you want, none of them have amounted to anything yet because, as Trump is finding out, you have to have some real evidence to make a legal case. The GOP is getting really good at bringing frivolous legal charges. I guess it makes republicans feel good just to “file” a suit but they are winless for a long time now. Frankly, I love to see them burning through that PAC stash ill-gotten money as fast as they can.

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    Taxpayer #314 says:

    Trump and his hand picked & appointed buddies in the Justice Department, who are as crooked as Trump, have been “investigating” the Biden Family since he became president. They are desperate to find something but still have nothing yet. The “Businessman” connection you claim would reveal the crimes on Fox, testified how Biden’s son had a key made to his office for his father, Joe. That was the big reveal. Wow, that’s a huge crime and proves tax evasion just by itself I guess. All the investigations for the past four years with the full weight of the US Department of Justice and the IRS behind the president have turned up O, nada, nothing on Biden. Let’s see what happens with Trump after he leaves office and a few tax investigations get underway in NY digging into his tax records. Biden is not the one begging for a pardon. Trump is so scared that he wants to pardon himself and all of his family- now that is hiding something! This boogeyman “investigation” is going nowhere, just like Trump.

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    Taxpayer #314 says:

    It sure would be nice if our TN State Legislators would focus on the number 1 Problem in our state at the moment which is the Covid Pandemic. TN just jumped to #1 in the country for new cases of the virus and our politicians just ignore the exploding numbers and carry on with their Christmas Parties as if nothing was wrong. Some of their fellow legislators are hospitalized and close to death, begging their counterparts to take this virus seriously but that doesn’t seem to matter to the “conservatives,” they like their so called “freedom from those pesky health rules.”

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