Historical Commision approves move of Forrest bust from Tennessee Capitol

The state Capitol was closed to visitors on March 16, 2020. (Erik Schelzig, Tennessee Journal)

The Tennessee Historical Commission has approved a petition to move the bust of Confederate cavalry general, slave trader, and early Ku Klux Klan leader Nathan Bedford Forrest from the state Capitol.

Petitions to change historical monuments require two-thirds votes by the commission. Twenty-five members of the panel voted in favor, while Joanne Cullom Moore was the lone commissioner voting against.

The waiver authorizes the move of the Forrest bust, along with those of U.S. Navy Adms. David Farragut and Albert Gleaves, to the Tennessee State Museum.

The speakers of the House and Senate have argued that Gov. Bill Lee’s administration skipped a step following the State Capitol Commission’s recommendation to move the bust because it did not seek concurrence from the State Building Commission.

23 Responses to Historical Commision approves move of Forrest bust from Tennessee Capitol

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    Phillip Lassiter says:

    Cancel Culture alive and well in a Republican supermajority. Curcio and Sexton must have been wearing the phones out to make this happen

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    Stuart I. Anderson says:

    I hope I have a long life left because I so do want to live long enough to see the day when someone or some organization sometime, somewhere says “NO” to a member of the Grievance Industry. It’s really a phenomenon as to how often some people can capitulate and still maintain their self respect.

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      MARLE says:

      Biden will give the grievance industry, the counter culture warriors, and the open border crowd enough rope to hang themselves. Winning back the House should be easy IF Trump doesn’t insert himself as he did in the winnable GA senate run off and Blow it all up.

      The whole idea for Independents and disgruntled Republicans was to hold the Senate (undone by Trump) thus preventing any major legislation. Then to win back the House. All while ridding the Republican CONSERVATIVE movement of Trump.

      Having screwed up the Senate win one can only hope they do not allow Trump to bring his scorched earth antics to the mid terms.

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        Stuart I. Anderson says:

        Speaking of Georgia, I just read an article about just how worthless the Georgia Republican Party has become. It is REALLY just the political arm of the Georgia and Atlanta Chambers of Commerce that shies away from any controversial social legislation that doesn’t effect the profits of members of the Chambers. Georgia Republicans candidates apparently think they are entitled to the votes of social conservatives but, upon election, they do nothing for social conservatives. The voters to an increasing extent are on to the Georgia Republican Party who will increasingly find that there aren’t enough members of the Chambers to win elections.

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    Not that Stuart guy says:

    Dudes, they’re being MOVED TO A MUSEUM, not being destroyed. Nothing is being canceled. More people will see them at the museum than at the capitol. Not every little thing us an affront. Relax.

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      Stuart I. Anderson says:

      Wearing the costume of a snowflake is rather incompatible with being a conservative so I don’t feel affronted and I am simply sad but relaxed. The sadness is caused by “. . .every little thing. . . .” that any member of the grievance industry demands they eventually get no matter how flimsy the reason for the demand. There seems to be a lack of will to defend society’s history, culture and traditions that shows a disintegration of spirit in our leadership class that is very sad to see.

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        Eddie White says:

        I am afraid that was decided in November when “independents and disgruntled Republicans “ helped elect Joe Biden president of the United States. The cancel culture and open borders folks are in full command.

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          MARLE says:

          No….not really. Had Rep held the Senate much of the exuberance of a Biden win would have been lost. BUT, thanks to Trump, the first president in 90 years to lose all levers of power during his brief term, the Senate majority disappeared. The Dems will lose both the House and Senate an WH if Republicans keep the politically poisonous Trump under control.

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            James White says:

            Well it will be interesting.
            The Republican party may be split into two or three factions (Hate-Trump, Love-Tump, Conservative) .
            The Democratic pary may be splint into two. Social Democrats (communist) and liberal Democrats (not communist)… ( just check out the Nevada democratic party staff resign because democrat socialist were voted in)

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    Paul says:

    You don’t have to wait long at all Stuart. The one-man-grievance-industry-army known as Donald J. Trump continues to have the vast majority of conservatives capitulating to him on a daily basis and enthralled with his never ending grievance-centric hold on “the base”. Many of us have said for years “how can anyone maintain their self respect”, given these folks formerly stated conservative principles. But that’s not a question being asked so much anymore because it’s so clear that a bunch of congress members, regular folks, and many in between decided self respect was happily given up to focus on things like owning the libs, potato heads, Dr. Seuss books, cancel culture craziness (“it’s new, it’s real, and it’s not that 80s political correctness thing we sold you, just repackaged, no sir!”), and so on, versus actually trying to accomplish anything realistic.

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    Perry Aubric says:

    This bust doesn’t really have a long history. it was placed there in the 1970s as a poke in the eye to the civil rights movement at the behest of then-State Sen. Douglas Henry, an old-time racist Dixiecrat (before the racists were run out of the Democratic Party and found a comfortable home with the Republicans).

    All this “cancel-culture” mythology from whiny, victim-crying, snowflake conservatives notwithstanding, I am actually OK with moving busts and statues of white-supremist traitors to the United States who took up arms against or government–whether during the Civil War or on January 6 of this year–into museums with descriptive placards fully describing what reprehensible scumbags and disgraces to humanity they were and continue to be.

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      Stuart I. Anderson says:

      The anger from one with a very tenuous knowledge of U. S. history. Forrest was no more a traitor to the United States than the current leader of Scotland, Nicola Sturgeon, is a traitor to the U. K. because she is also the leader of the Scottish National Party that is a strong advocate for Scottish independence or were the members of Sein Fein who successfully faught for Irish independence. You talk like an imperialist which is a strange lexicon for a old lefty like yourself Perry. The only reason Forrest and other noble Tennesseans took up arms against the United States was in order to defend this state because ole Abe Lincoln had the USA invade Tennessee after Tennesseans voted to secede from this country.

      Bedford Forrest risked his life over a number of years serving to defend this state. That is why he was rightly honored by the placing his bust in the state Capitol. The moving of his bust is a pusillanimous capitulation to the demands of the grievance industry which, given it’s the grievance industry, only wets the apatite of the “aggrieved” for further capitulations.

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        Perry Aubric says:

        Wrong, Stuart. You can rationalize treason against the United States in defense of slavery all you like, but the Civil Was was a war waged by traitors in defense of the indefensible. Red herring nonsense about Scotland notwithstanding. Tennessee joined a war to keep slavery; this state had no right to break the union; Forrest was a traitor to the USA, killed soldiers of our nation, founded the KKK and deserved to be hanged. He sure as hell doesn’t deserve a place of honor in the State Capitol. Your revisionist nonsense shows your ignorance and (fully knowing how you squeal like a stuck pig every time you are called out on it) your virulent mean-spirited racism.

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          Stuart I. Anderson says:

          OK, in order of appearance;

          1. “Treason” requires a desire to overthrow the government of a state. The seceding Southern states had no such intention regarding the government of the USA.

          2. Abe Lincoln, a majority of Republicans, and all the Democrats knew that he had no authority to endanger slavery in the South so the war wasn’t faught to defend slavery.

          3. Tennessee had the same “right” to its independence as Scotland, or Slovakia, or Croatia, or Quebec have a “right” to their independence. Today, nobody questions that “right” in the same way as nobody advocates for slavery. In modern times we understand that it is unconscionable to do what Lincoln did at the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives. If you disagree, Perry, you are idiosyncratic but consistent. If say “OK for the Scots, Slovaks, etc. but not for Tennesseans” then you are being inconsistent and unprincipled.

          4. As usual Perry, you are long on emotion and humorless nastiness but a bit short on knowledge and most importantly YOU’RE A LEFTIST so when you guys face disagreement it doesn’t take much for you in frustration to slap down the race card. It’s really gotten to be such a bore, but I understand.

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          MARLE says:

          When the colonist threw out the British they didn’t want to end the government of England IN England…they just didn’t want it in the Colonies. THAT, Stuart, we still call “overthrowing the government”. The Confederacy wanted to do the same. But unlike the Scots they were wanting to do abolish the current rule in order to preserve the ownership, breeding and sale of humans.
          Big difference.

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            James White says:

            Marle, the confederacy did not want to overthrow, they wanted OUT.
            Most believed at the time that since the States formed the federal government, not the other way around, then any state has a right to secede.
            Some in the north wanted to secede also. Some because they did not like the Union invading a State. When it became apparent that Maryland was going to secede (over the unconstitutional acts of Lincoln), the President had the secessionist members of the Maryland legislature arrested September 13-16, 1861. This prevented a bill for secession being proposed. Locals officials in Maryland, including the Mayor of Baltimore was also arrested.

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            MARLE says:

            Did the colonists want out? Yes…they didn’t want to destroy England they only wanted OUT.
            They didn’t want to end the Government of England they only wanted OUT. But we call that an overthrow now don’t we.

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            Stuart I. Anderson says:

            Since the Treaty of Versailles at the latest, we don’t think of people living in a defined contiguous territory who want to separate themselves from the country that they find themselves in as committing “treason.” Not the Scots today, not the dozens of peoples from the end of World War I through the Slovaks, Croats, Slovenes etc. etc. in more recent times. The only time words like “treason” are tossed around in this situation today is by autocrats who are simply looking for a rhetorical device to justify the use of force to suppress the desire of these peoples for freedom. Therefore in 2021 looking back at individuals like Forrest who faught for the Confederacy I find calling them “traitors” or saying that they were committing “treason” is simply inflammatory rhetoric designed to show intense dislike of those individuals and lack of sympathy with their motives but which I find a totally inappropriate use of those words.

            The libertarian in me always is sympathetic toward any individual or group of individuals who want to be free, out of an undesirable relationship in which they find themselves. As with the Confederate states there are usually a number of motives behind the desire to dissolve the ties that currently bind, some of which I personally cheer, some at which I harrumph my disapproval, but it’s not for me to decide. The Confederates wanted out in overwhelming numbers. We just should have let them go in peace.

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          Phillip Lassiter says:

          Ignorant Aubric

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    Charles says:

    Wow! That us telling him !!!

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    Stuart I. Anderson says:

    THE CAUSES FOR THE WAR BETWEEN THE STATES by Stuart Anderson

    From independence the Southern states controlled Congress and often the Presidency. As this country entered the mid 19th Century it became obvious that the North was growing at a much greater rate than the South. This inevitable meant that eventually more and more free states would be admitted into the Union, control of the government would permanently move to the North, and the South would be relegated to a backwater status in this country. As a result, the North would be able to impose tariffs to protect the growing Northern industries which would negatively impact US international trade and the export of Southern cotton and tobacco on which the South relied. Further, the rabble rousing of the more outspoken Radical Republicans made the Southern elite feel that EVENTUALLY the federal government would come after slavery. This was the thinking of the population of the Southern states as they, often in overwhelming numbers, concluded that the world view and economic interests of the South was too divergent from those of the North so it would be best if the Southern States seceded and formed their own country.

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      James White says:

      The purpose was to change our Federal Government into a National Government. To weaken the Constitution and to strengthen the Executive branch. To allow more control over new departments and to give the new National government more reach and power.
      Don’t look at why it happened, look at the results.

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