Former commissioner reports Rep. Weaver to DC police

Rep. Terri Lynn Weaver (R-Lancaster) attends a briefing on the coronavirus pandemic in Nashville on March 16, 2020. (Erik Schelzig, Tennessee Journal)

A former commissioner in then-Gov. Ned McWherter’s administration has reported state Rep. Terri Lynn Weaver (R-Lancaster) to law enforcement for taking part in Washington protest that turned into a riot.

“I respectfully inform you that Terri Lynn Weaver… was a participant,” Dudley Taylor wrote to D.C. Police Chief Robert Contee. “She posted photos and informed The Tennessean, the daily newspaper in Nashville, that she was ‘in the thick of it.’ She claimed to be a ‘patriot,’ of course.”

Contee in an email thanked Taylor for his report.

“I will ensure our FBI partners have this information,” Contee wrote.

Taylor is a Knoxville attorney who served as revenue commissioner for McWherter. He is also a former member of the Tennessee Registry of Election Finance and was the Democratic nominee in the open 2nd Congressional District won by Republican Jimmy Duncan in 1988.

Taylor wrote in his letter that if his report qualifies for a $1,000 reward, he will donate it to the family of the U.S. Capitol Police officer who was killed in the riot.

128 Responses to Former commissioner reports Rep. Weaver to DC police

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    Cryan says:

    Lock her up.

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    James White says:

    Of the hundreds of thousands that were there and were peaceful, Where is the proof that Rep. Weaver violated the law?

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      Cryan says:

      She bragged to the press that she was unlawfully inside the Capitol killing and crushing cops. If she’s that stupid, what’s still on her phone or emails from that day and the days leading up to her getting on that bus to assassinate the VP?

      The FBI has a duty to investigate. Check her financial records, too.

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      Eddie White says:

      You are exactly right James. There was no violation of law to be in Washington or to participate in the rally. Sounds like an overly excited old partisan in Knoxville.

      This is a question for Erik Schlzig: is a blogger permitted to post on this blog accusing a state representative of participating in the killing of a police officer and the attempted assassination of the vice- president?

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        Cryan says:

        “Law and order for thee not me.”

        Why don’t you put your money where your mouth is? Here is the GoFundMe for Officer Brian Sicknick:

        https://www.gofundme.com/f/95xqrr-officer-brian-d-sicknick-memorial

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        Cryan says:

        The far-right fringe GOP are the true perpetrators of Cancel Culture. Fascists.

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        Stuart I. Anderson says:

        Eddie, as a free speech absolutist other than in the case of overt incitement to violent lawlessness I support Erik’s free speech policy on this blog. Of course, such a policy attracts trolls who simply want to inflame whose posts have no redeeming quality. I think that’s simply one of the prices we pay for having this type of forum and each of us when confronting trolls should simply ignore them and NEVER reply to their incendiary postings and, in fact, avoid responding to them altogether even when they occasionally have something sensible to say.

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          Eddie White says:

          Of course there is not really a free speech policy applied to this blog. If the blogger would have referenced the representative using a homophobic or racial slur, the post would have been deleted. In this instance I asked the moderator of the blog if the post was appropriate since the blogger accused the representative of being in the capital participating in the killing of a cop. Obviously Erik believes the perimeters of the blog have not been abridged.

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        Henry Skelton says:

        If she was inside the building without official permission, she broke the law. That’s the first charge filed for many of those arrested. She may qualify for other charges after further investigation.

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    John Saunders says:

    Talk about a sour grapes loser. What an idiot. Possibly 1 million people at the peaceful rally. Maybe 300 broke the law and got inside.

    I’d arrest him for a false report and being a DemocRAT.

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      Cryan says:

      Here comes the crowd size arguments. I’m not inclined to believe anyone who brags about the size of their… crowds.

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      Jane says:

      https://www.wbur.org/news/2021/01/12/fbi-doj-capitol-attack-press-conference

      Here is the full video of DOJ and FBI discussing the riot and ensuing nationwide investigation. Reports like this are just the beginning. We will see many many more reports and arrests.

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        Stuart I. Anderson says:

        That’s good news Jane. I can’t wait for additional reports about “seditionists” taking over whole blocks of Portland, Oregon and the burning and looting that took place in Minneapolis as well as Antifa thugs crossing state lines in violation of federal law to burn and pillage Kenosha, Wisconsin. I look forward the “. . .many more reports and arrests” and hope you will keep us informed and linked.

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          Jane says:

          Mirror mirror on the wall who’s the wisest of them all

          Your deflection is truly an art form.

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            Stuart I. Anderson says:

            Perhaps, but please Jane never forget to give honorable mention to those on the left whose hypocricy and unattractive end game make whatever I do so darn easy.

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          MARLE says:

          In the summer we were operating under the Trump guidelines which approved of crowds looting and rioting and vandalizing private property stemming from a grievance against government.

          If it was good enough for Trump’s approval then I can see why Antifa thought it was acceptable to most on the Right.

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            Marshall says:

            Are you suggesting that Trump approved of the riots in the cities?? It appears you are but it’s difficult to imagine how anyone could be that ill-informed or that nutty. Please tell me I misinterpreted your comment.

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    Peter Smithson says:

    Somebody is mad at their parents for being named Dudley.

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    cindy s says:

    if the readers do not see this is a witch hunt, take off your blinders!

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    Martin D Kennedy says:

    Attending a “Stop the Steal” rally by itself is not a crime. It is however an endorsement of a conspiracy theory, one that led, in this case, to 5 deaths. Did Rep Weaver believe the lie? Did she think it wasn’t fantasy? Or, did she just go along with the theater of it?

    While there may not be criminal activity here, there is either encouragement, via endorsement, of a conspiracy or the use of the conspiracy to further political ends. Look, the GOP is at a crossroads. It can continue to go down the rabbit-hole of fantasy and conspiracy or it can develop and argue a platform of policy ideas.

    The entire TN GOP delegation voted to object to the electors… after out country was assaulted. The winds are shifting. I believe there are R voters here who are tired of all the nonsense.

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      Stuart I. Anderson says:

      And if you are right Martin, they will not soon again vote for a No Record Candidate like Donald Trump for a high office when one or more solid conservative alternatives are available. Not a bad outcome I say.

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        Cryan says:

        Good luck. 80% of Republicans still approve of Trump and over 60% plan to vote for him in the Republican primary in 2024.

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      James White says:

      There are some conspiracy ‘therory’s that are Fact.
      If you do not believe that there are 2 or more people, in secret, plotting evil, then you have NEVER read a history book.
      Conspiracies have been since the beginning of time, I suggest you do a little reading, the Bible is a good start…

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    Beatrice Shaw says:

    This is the worse example of leadership we have seen from a Tennessean. She really needs to resign and do so immediately. Looks like that is being said enough here but it must be underscored.

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    Beatrice Shaw says:

    another observation…..she is ON the grounds of the Capitol in this post she sent. No more debate

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      LeeAnn C. says:

      The attendees had a permit to be on the grounds of the Capitol. No one had a permit to push past Capitol police to enter the building. Thus is the line of distinction between legal and illegal activity.

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        Cryan says:

        No, they didn’t have a permit to be at the Capitol. Donald Trump told them to march on the Capitol.

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          LeeAnn C. says:

          They had a permit to be on the GROUNDS at the Capitol. Being there and staging a peaceful protest outside the building is perfectly legal. Legal vs illegal. It’s not difficult.

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    Jason Wallflower says:

    Weaver is a RINO. She is one of the most incompetent and corrupt members. She even stood by Jeremy Durham!

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      Stuart I. Anderson says:

      Jason just between you and me, do you have the slightest idea what a RINO is? Terri Lynn has an ACU score of 90% – maybe you know more about rock ‘n roll, or sports or well, anything so as not to make a fool out of yourself.

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    Beatrice Shaw says:

    all the people that went to DC from TN in those terror buses need to be identified to help our country survive this persistent onslaught by the right.

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      Cryan says:

      Can you FOIA a state attorney general? If not, Herbert Slattery should also be reported to the FBI. Did he help fund the insurrection? Did he buy Lynn Weaver’s bus ticket?

      1-800-CALLFBI (225-5324)

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      Stuart I. Anderson says:

      Oh dear, Beatrice is having one of her Madame Defarge Days. This sort of things happens every few days. She’s not really a Communist, she just sounds like it when she’s having one of her Madame Defarge Days. Of course, if you are around her while she is knitting during one of her Days and you say something political with which she disagrees, that ain’t good.

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        Jane says:

        Question for you Stuart. Why didn’t any of the dissenting Republicans mention the election being stolen in the impeachment hearing yesterday?

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          Stuart I. Anderson says:

          I would take a wild guess and say because they were discussing IMPREACHMENT which is sort of a discussion of whether to indict the President for a crime. In cases like that you want to discuss the elements of the crime and whether the “suspect” engaged in conduct that satisfied those elements. Whether or not the election was stolen had nothing to do with the conduct the Democrats were charging Trump of engaging..

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            Jane says:

            Hahaha another completely incoherent response to a direct question. Why were they there? You don’t think that’s part of his guilt? So the defense is they have a right to protest. What exactly are they protesting?

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            Stuart I. Anderson says:

            Hohoho, Trump the subject of IMPEACHMENT, was in Washington because that is where they moved the Captol from New York (I believe) many years ago. No, living in Washington is not an IMPEACHABLE offense though having lived there for many years I can say that it’s not a very desirable place. Now the fact that Trump felt that an election in this country went terribly wrong and he had something to do with gathering those that agree with him in Washington to put pressure on their elected representatives to take action to address their grievance in not an IMPEACHABLE offense. Trump’s defense is that he simply had nothing to do with the thugs taking it upon themselves to storm the Capitol because if he did THAT WOULD BE AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE.

            Jane you seem to be getting a little confused between Trump and IMPEACHMENT which is how we started this exchange and the thousands of peaceful protestors exercising their First Amendment rights to assemble and bitch about something and the hundreds of violent thugs who planned and carried out a violent attack on the Capitol. It is irrelevant what they were protesting. You and I have a right under the Constitution to go to Washington and protest the fact that there isn’t more recognition that the moon is made out of good old American cheese rather than some stupid rocks and sand. OK?

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            Jane says:

            “It is irrelevant what they were protesting”

            No, no it is not.

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            Stuart I. Anderson says:

            You might “feel” that it’s not irrelevant, but under the Constitution and the law it certainly is. Of course, “when the revolution comes” the left will put a stop to all this right of assembly garbage, but as of now I’m afraid that’s the way it is and PLEASE don’t shoot the messenger.

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    LeeAnn C says:

    Rep. Weaver attended a well organized, PEACEFUL and PERMITTED event. Overly excited people like Dudley calling the overworked police dept are not helping. Identification and prosecution of those ILLEGALLY entering the Capitol should not be hindered by those wishing to villianize all attendees.

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      Cryan says:

      Why would a person who voted to make it illegal to peacefully protest at the state Capitol building go to the national Capitol building just to “peacefully protest”?

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        LeeAnn C. says:

        No one voted to make it ‘illegal’ to peacefully protest anywhere. Clarification was made as to who could stay overnight on publicly owned property and penalties stiffened for unlawful activity.

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      MARLE says:

      Once the police pushed back against the First invaders everyone who entered behind them were entering illegally.

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      Taxpayer #314 says:

      Trump most certainly incited those in the crowd to “march to the Capitol and be ready to fight or they would not have a country left.” He is absolutely the one person who is responsible for the crowd’s actions, he was not alone in doing so but he INCITED the crowd to violence that day, Guilty as charged!

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        MARLE says:

        And actually what HE said is not the entire level of culpability. Trump created the event. He selected each and every speaker who took the stage that day. He was not unaware of who his handpicked/approved speakers were incl the now-idiot Giuliani who called for Trial by Combat.

        Now let’s march to the Capitol

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        Stuart I. Anderson says:

        Hey guys, you forgot the word, PEACEABLY or a derivative thereof, that I know was in the march on the Capitol sentence. Now why would you forget something like that?

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          MARLE says:

          Yes Stuart the MARCH was peaceable. No one threw gum wrappers or spit on the street. They didn’t trip fellow marchers. What they did once they got there was not. And that is not all He said. HE said much more and so did those HE gave a platform to. All of that matters.

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            Stuart I. Anderson says:

            There is no one in this forum who more of a law and order guy than I am, that’s generally how we conservatives run. I don’t want rioters walking the street. I want them in jail until they they’re rioting days are behind them and I want their LONG sentences to be well publicized to deter others.

            Law breaking, however, is sort of a personal act. It is committed by those who break the law which doesn’t include giving an impassioned, even inflammatory speech unless you direct people to commit acts of violence which I know Trump simply didn’t do. Now as for Guiliani and others I don’t know but if their speeches crossed the line they should be prosecuted, not Trump, unless he wrote those speeches and/or directed them to give that particular speech.

            This using felonious acts by some to entangle others peripherally involved in the act by nothing more than speaking in words is a slippery slope to free speech oppression which seems to be a new found hobby in this country by those who were so ready “not to let a crises go to waste.” As I said, I come pretty close to being a free speech absolutist so this is one hobby on which I will have to pass.

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          Taxpayer #314 says:

          Yes, trump said it one time in his otherwise hour long rage about Marching to the Capitol. Stuart, you and trump picked out the one single word that he said once in a 45 minute speech that was ALL ABOUT VIOLENCE and so were the rest of the other speakers that spoke that day. You don’t do reconnaissance for a peaceful march and you you don’t bring weapons, pipe bombs and explosives to a peaceful march. His hurried one word in one sentence does NOT match with the rest of his one hour rage. You really know how to twist those words but anybody that heard the entire speech did not get the wrong idea about what he meant.

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            Stuart I. Anderson says:

            The rioters were prepared to riot, determined to riot and neither Trump’s nor anyone else’s speech made any difference whatsoever.

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            Stuart I. Anderson says:

            Once you say to a crowd that I want you peacefully to do something that sets a very high bar to those who want to establish he was advocating violence. He doesn’t have to repeat it over and over again to be free of the charge of advocating violence. Well, at least not if the left approves of or is indifferent towards you. If the left really dislikes you, however, no amount of repetition will do.

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    MARLE says:

    If you were in the Capitol Building during the riot and mayhem then YOU contributed to what happened there.

    Police were unable to focus on the more violent perpetrators because of the sheer mass of people who had breeched the building. Anyone following the mob into a building the police were trying to fortify Obviously added to the inability for the police to manage the situation.

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      James White says:

      the video I saw , the police removed the barricades and motioned for the people to enter… ?

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        Cryan says:

        Yes, some did, James. There a lot of other videos showing “Stop the Steal” punching and beating cops with fire extinguishers and crushing them in doors until blood spewed out of their mouths.

        Those officers that participated should be investigated.

        We need visitor logs to the Capitol on January 5th. Visitors are restricted due to covid-19, but several “Stop the Steal” received reconnaissance tours from pro-Trump lawmakers the day before their premeditated assassination attempt.

        When did Lynn Weaver arrive in DC? I’m sure the FBI already knows.

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        MARLE says:

        Same video with the Antifa horned guy? You did see the Republican Minority leader of the House go to a microphone to say that Antifa was not involved? Deep state, right? One of the president’s most loyal proxies is probably lying.

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    Taxpayer #314 says:

    Pelosi came out the other day onto the plaza and personally thanked the rows of National Guard and Capitol Police assembled for coming out and defending the constitution and the congressional members. You never heard a word from trump except to complain about the harm and evil that was done to him.
    Stop the Squeal!

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      MARLE says:

      I used to think that certain leftist groups had set the ultimate high bar for whining and grievance.

      Then came Trump and his Republican apologists who thumbed their way daily on Twitter and broke the barrier with 4 years of non-stop victimization.

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      Phillip Lassiter says:

      She didn’t mean it. Aides just told her it was a good graphic.

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    Ppetty says:

    Lock her up. And make sure her big mouth gets locked up too. Traitor.

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      Taxpayer #314 says:

      And you don’t hear a word of encouragement from any trump supporters either, just more of the same ole whining about all the grave injustices done to trump and we only counted the votes once, in a hurry, blah, blah, blah.

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    Donna Locke says:

    Vanished town squares and buying a mimeograph machine

    https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/the-great-unraveling

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      James White says:

      Donna, I read the story.. I do not know why Ms Weiss thought the NYT would really allow conservative writers free realm. Even the Wall Street Journal is controlled and there are topics that are forbidden.
      As far as social media.. There is no such thing as free speech on the internet.
      Here is something the readers of major newspapers should take into account:

      U.S. Congressional Record February 9, 1917, page 2947

      Congressman Calloway announced that the J.P. Morgan interests bought 25 of America’s leading newspapers, and inserted their own editors, in order to control the media.

      The CHAIRMAN: The Chair will recognize the gentleman from Texas, a member of the [defense appropriations] committee.
      Mr. CALLAWAY: Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to insert in the Record a statement that I have of how the newspapers of this country have been handled by the munitions manufacturers.
      The CHAIRMAN: The gentleman from Texas asks unanimous consent to extend his remarks in the Record by inserting a certain statement. Is there any objection?
      Mr. MANN: Mr. Chairman, reserving the right to object, may I ask whether it is the gentleman’s purpose to insert a long list of extracts from newspapers?
      Mr. CALLAWAY: No; it will be a little, short statement not over 2 ½ inches in length in the Record.
      The CHAIRMAN: Is there any objection?
      There was no objection.
      Mr. CALLAWAY: Mr. Chairman, under unanimous consent, I insert into the Record at this point a statement showing the newspaper combination, which explains their activity in the war matter, just discussed by the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. MOORE]:
      “In March, 1915, the J.P. Morgan interests, the steel, ship building and powder interests and their subsidiary organizations, got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press in the United States.
      “These 12 men worked the problems out by selecting 179 newspapers, and then began, by an elimination process, to retain only those necessary for the purpose of controlling the general policy of the daily press throughout the country. They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers. The 25 papers were agreed upon; emissaries were sent to purchase the policy, national and international, of these papers; an agreement was reached; the policy of the papers was bought, to be paid for by the month; an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information regarding the questions of preparedness, militarism, financial policies and other things of national and international nature considered vital to the interests of the purchasers.
      “This contract is in existence at the present time, and it accounts for the news columns of the daily press of the country being filled with all sorts of preparedness arguments and misrepresentations as to the present condition of the United States Army and Navy, and the possibility and probability of the United States being attacked by foreign foes.
      “This policy also included the suppression of everything in opposition to the wishes of the interests served. The effectiveness of this scheme has been conclusively demonstrated by the character of the stuff carried in the daily press throughout the country since March, 1915. They have resorted to anything necessary to commercialize public sentiment and sandbag the National Congress into making extravagant and wasteful appropriations for the Army and Navy under false pretense that it was necessary. Their stock argument is that it is ‘patriotism.’ They are playing on every prejudice and passion of the American people.
      – end –

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    Rob Briley says:

    Sounds like she was just woof ‘em, as Judge Shriver would say.

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      Phillip Lassiter says:

      Wow. Talk about a drunkard and law breaker that cheats on their family and abuses the police. Rob-go back into your hole and conjure more lies about your family abusing you as an excuse for your dereliction. You have less standing than anyone here-even cryan Dudley.

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    karen bracken says:

    Well from reading the disgusting comments to this article it is clear that communism is alive and well in TN.

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    Jennifer Hamblin says:

    How comical & pathetic does it get?! Taylor is sooooo desperate to be in the limelight again,
    & apparently this was his silly, weak attempt at doing it! Free speech still exists
    and your actions aren’t worth the time of day!
    Rep Terri Lynn did not and would not ever stoop as low as your weak behavior
    suggests. That is behavior of you and the Dem’s style, not Rep.
    Weaver & all the Patriots! Quite frankly she has more class in her little toes
    than your entire DNA.

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    MARLE says:

    Here’s a text from a Georgia man, angry with the election results, who ALSO was in attendance:

    “Headed to DC with a (s—-) ton of 5.56 armor-piercing ammo,” he texted friends and relatives on Jan. 6, adding a purple devil emoji, according to court filings. The following day, he texted to the group: “Thinking about heading over to Pelosi (C——’s) speech and putting a bullet in her noggin on Live TV.” He once again added a purple devil emoji, and wrote he might hit her with his truck instead. “I’m gonna run that (C—-) Pelosi over while she chews on her gums. … Dead (B——) Walking. I predict that within 12 days, many in our country will die.”

    The man, who is white, then texted a photo of himself in blackface. “I’m gonna walk around DC FKG with people by yelling ‘Allahu ak Bar’ randomly.”

    A participant in the text exchange provided screenshots to the FBI, who tracked Meredith to a Holiday Inn a short walk from the Capitol. They found a compact Tavor X95 assault rifle, a 9mm Glock 19 handgun and about 100 rounds of ammunition, according to court filings. The agents also seized a stash of THC edibles and a vial of injectable testosterone.

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    Taxpayer #314 says:

    One can only conclude there are some really disturbed republican trump supporters running around out there. The majority of trump supporters have now given up on him and have moved on to the next wild thing, but the hardcore thugs that remain are becoming more dangerous every day.

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      MARLE says:

      No they haven’t moved on. Sometimes your bad instincts take a rest; a devil spirit goes silent. But when the siren song beckons they will rise. Trump will declare for 2024 to allow him to start taking in campaign dollars (to go along with the $200M he took in since the election in his :”Legal fund” which can be spent on elections as well) and do so for the next 4 years.

      He’s not going anywhere and neither are the politicians who fear him nor the 74M who adore him.

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        Jane says:

        The DOJ said in today’s press conference, they expect the number of arrests to reach 300 by this weekend and then “grow exponentially”. They encouraged anyone who participated to turn themselves in and bring an attorney, as apparently some have already.

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        Taxpayer #314 says:

        Trump is done. The US can’t stand any more of this family mob. If our country is dumb enough to let this man go free, and not see to it that he never holds any office again in the US government at any level, we deserve what we get. This is getting ridiculous, wake up folks…this man is a traitor and wants to end our democracy.

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    Victor F. Andrews says:

    Wow…..this article struck a nerve…..all these tattle tellers on their political opponents really need to get a life. The FBI doesn’t need help hunting down conservative patriots, but the radical marxists that lead the charge, they’ll need plenty help there. It’s just like a Dumocrat to make political hay out of a few bad eggs creating a disaster – where were they this summer? And of course, their hypocrisy is at high noon, since they never once called the Summer Riots and Destruction in cities across America by their buddies what they were – “insurrection”! Just plain Un-American.

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      Jane says:
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        Stuart I. Anderson says:

        But certainly the last four years have given us the understanding that the bureaucrats in the DOJ and many personnel in the FBI are no friends of Donald Trump or anyone on the political right.

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          Jane says:

          You mean they’re not friends with criminals? That makes sense.

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          Stuart I. Anderson says:

          So let me get this straight, you think “Donald Trump or anyone on the political right” are criminals, without being even charged, indicted or convicted of a crime apparently just because they disagree with you politically. Jane, perhaps having lunch with Beatrice Shaw on a regular basis isn’t good for you.

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            Jane says:

            “President Trump nominated 86 people to be U.S. attorneys, and 84 of them were confirmed. There are a total of 93 U.S. attorneys in the Department of Justice.”.

            No friends of his huh?

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            Jane says:

            Three key elements are necessary for an offense to constitute treason: an OBLIGATION OF ALLEGIANCE to the legal order, and INTENT and ACTION to violate that obligation. Treason is a breach of allegiance and of the faithful support a citizen owes to the sovereignty within which he lives.

            On January 6th 2021 Donald J Trump committed treason as defined in the the Constitution of the United States of America, live on international television. He has currently been charged with incitement of an insurrection, which like the method in which federal law enforcement is initially charging with the most obvious and enforceable crimes, the Senate hearing will be just the beginning of his time in court.

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            Stuart I. Anderson says:

            Hopefully they are his friends, but for some inexplicable reason Trump often appoints and nominates people diametrically opposed to his policies then complains and even fires them. It’s one of Trump’s quaint charms the appreciation of which I refer you to the Trumpidians who apparently simply can’t get enough of him.

            Whatever, the DOJ and certainly the FBI are made up of thousands upon thousands of lifetime bureaucrats who are there administration after administration and are overwhelmingly liberal. Have you seen the election results from D.C., Maryland and now even the northern suburban tier of Virginia recently? So if your well developed sense of justice causes you to expect those government institutions to give conservatives, or even center-right types a fair shake and to impose the law on an even handed basis, I’m afraid you are in for yet another expectation to fail to be realized.

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            Stuart I. Anderson says:

            Nice except for the fact that there is no evidence whatsoever that he had any INTENT for the rally he organized to turn violent insofar as it could not have conceivably served his interest as it certainly has not and there is no connection between what he said on “international television” and the riots insofar as (a) his words were unremarkable and he specifically asked the crowd to be peaceful and (b) that there is now ample evidence that the thugs were planning the riots way before they ever heard Trump speak. So there goes ACTION. Thanks for primer on treason Jane for it highlights that Trump is guilty of many commissions and omissions but treason isn’t one of them.

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            MARLE says:

            Actually Stuart I HAVE seen election results in recent years from MD. In 204 they, to my surprise elected a REP as Governor (pre Trump). Then they did it again in 2018. Hogan can’t run in 2022 so we will see what happens.

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            Stuart I. Anderson says:

            To paraphrase Alan Paton, “Hogan might not be a Democrat, but he is not a bad imitation of a Democrat.”

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          Jane says:

          Yawn Stu. I think it’s your nap time. Let’s just watch and see shall we? We predicted the revolt based on the big lie, and you will soon see the rino in the courtroom.

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            Stuart I. Anderson says:

            June I hate to see you overstimulated like this, I know it’s tiring. To me, however, this is the usual media hyped liberal nothingburger that is here and soon will be there, talk about tiring.

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            Jane says:

            Okay so we have the oath. And you just substantiated the intent by saying it was planned. We can let the actions now be investigated.

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            Stuart I. Anderson says:

            BUT NOT BY TRUMP!!!!!!!! It can’t just be INTENT by someone somewhere then you get the right of center guy.

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            Jane says:

            Go to sleep Rinostilskin. We will wake you up when the Senate hearing and subsequent Federal indictments begin.

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    Taxpayer #314 says:

    A few BAD EGGS? Lets see…8 (R) across the state of Michigan currently charged with various crimes. President (R) Impeached 2X, 9 (R) in current state legislature in TN under FBI investigation. GA (R) lost both seats in senate for first time & flipped state Blue, AZ lost both (R) seats in senate for first time and flipped state Blue, GOP party officials across the country are in total disarray. GOP lost control of the US senate for first time in years. And republicans are losing their FINANCIAL supporters by the minute. – and that bothers them tremendously as that is their primary focus of being in politics. Political Hay? I don’t think so!

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    MARLE says:

    Rudy Giuliani spoke on that stage. He was there because Trump put him there. He called for TRIAL BT COMBAT to a crowd whose most volatile know the meaning:

    It is from GAME OF THRONES. You should read up on it Stuart. Simply put, from the rule book for the Game it means this: A trial by combat does not, necessarily, need to be fought to the death. It is fought until one man yields

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      Stuart I. Anderson says:

      There is no evidence that Trump wrote Guiliani’s speech or knew of its contents beforehand so if your point is that Rudy’s speech was so compelling that it made or encouraged grown men and women to behave like thugs sorry that simply doesn’t involve Trump. Now if you want to lock Rudy up, count me out. War metaphors are so much a part of our political discourse in our increasingly coarse and brutish society that it certainly is not beyond a reasonable doubt that even Rudy had enough to do with the mayhem to hold him blameworthy. This is especially true as we find more and more evidence that the thugs were determined to act like thugs days before they got to Washington.

      Over time this latest liberal nothingburger loses more and more of its flavor just like the Russian Collusion Nothingburger, and the Ukrainian Phone Call Nothingburger. It now appears that we had a potpourri of thugs at the Capitol. Besides Trumpidian Thugs we apparently had a smattering of professional Antifa Thugs along with assorted anarchothugs. I know, all were so mesmerized by the galvanizing prose of Trump and Guiliani that they went from being conscientious Quakers to life threatening thugs. Tell it to a jury, but put me down as a “NO.”

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        Stuart I. Anderson says:

        Of course, I got a little turned around there folks, I meant to say “there certainly is reasonable doubt that even Rudy had enough to do with the mayhem. . . .”

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      MARLE says:

      You don’t have to write someone’s speech you just have to give him a platform. Are you being purposely obtuse and ignorant of the law? You don’t have to rob the bank you just have to drive the car. You don’t have to pull the trigger you just have to give him the gun. The point of all of the speechmakers was to incite.

      And what has become of Rudy is so pathetic. Trump has been toxic to everyone who glums to him. What he has done to the Republican party and any furtherance of conservatism is, for those of us who care, unforgiveable. Yes….unforgiveable. I will leave forgiveness on this matter to others. None of what’s happened needed to happen

      And now Trump is planning a red carpet, 21 gun salute (has any president ever done such a thing? NO) and the use of Airforce 1 in his deranged send off. Theatrics…..that is the hallmark of his existence.

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        Stuart I. Anderson says:

        But if you are giving him a platform without knowing he was going to give that speech (which btw I regard as benign) then it’s a nothingburger. If you are driving the car and you go to eat lunch while your passengers excuses himself and goes into First National Bank and robs it its a nothingburer. If you legally sell a gun to an individual who then uses it illegally its a (lets hear it audience) NOTHINGBURGER. So much in life that you dredge up as something is a nothingburger but that’s what you enjoy doing and I’m your friend so I want you to enjoy yourself.

        There is nothing for me to forgive Trump about. He was WRONG, the Republicans who voted for him were WRONG and I did what I could to prevent it. I expected nothing and received a little more than I expected. Case closed.

        Trump is a jerk. He was a jerk as President. He was a jerk as a candidate the second time and therefore lost. He is going out like a jerk. CASE CLOSED!

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          Jonathan Swift says:

          Stuart, your confusion is contagious. Are you now saying that you did NOT vote for Trump?

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            Stuart I. Anderson says:

            Jonathan you’re playing some silly game drawing conclusions out of thin air that has nothing to do to what you are supposedly referring. MARLE and I were discussing Trump as we so often do and the modern day Democratic desire to disinter Cromwell and put him on trial after he is no longer in office pointlessly. It has absolutely nothing to do with the binary choice I faced when I voted for Trump both times. Why not “Are you saying the Predators have little chance of winning the Stanley Cup this season”?
            Come on Jonathan surely you can do better than that.

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            Jonathan Swift says:

            “There is nothing for me to forgive Trump about. He was WRONG, the Republicans who voted for him were WRONG and I did what I could to prevent it.”

            So you were wrong to vote for Trump, yet you did it anyway, even though you could have voted for someone else. Do you even know what you are writing anymore, other than tangential torrents of words meant to obfuscate?

            Is that better?

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          Stuart I. Anderson says:

          Context Jonathan, to get the true meaning of phrases they have to be digested with reference to other phrases around them. “. . .I did what I could to prevent it” is unmistakable evidence that I was talking about the 2016 Republican Primary when I voted and made significant financial contributions to Ted Cruz. I am a conservative whose primary goal is to make the Republican Party as conservative as possible and whose secondary goal is to deprive liberals of elective office. Whenever Trump is the Republican nominee I will vote for him when he is opposed by a liberal Democrat after trying to prevent him from becoming the Republican nominee.

          Nothing new in any of this. A clear and consistent game plan. OK?

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            Cryan says:

            Stop lying. You said Trump supporters need to get over Trump and get behind Mitch Mcconnell or get out!

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    Taxpayer #314 says:

    Oh Yes, we have seen how over the last several months and years Rudy & the Donald are so different and never agree on anything. Polar opposites! Yeah right. More republican deflection with this Antifa stuff.
    We already put you down as a “NO.”

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      Stuart I. Anderson says:

      You settle on the weirdest things Taxpayer, but you’re a man of the left so that’s to be expected. “WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE” as a friend of yours famously said. Either they are guilty of aiding and abetting the riot under the law or not. Their internal differences or agreements have nothing to do with anything. Of course, I could accuse you of “deflection” but I don’t want to do anything a leftist would do so I won’t.

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    Taxpayer #314 says:

    Are there any stats out there on how many republicans “with heritage scores over 90” have been arrested or are in jail now? That would be an interesting number, I bet. That number, of course, will be rising quickly in the near future. What are the odds that Stuart will report on that interesting and revealing number? Any thoughts?

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      Stuart I. Anderson says:

      Again, we have a weird settlement problem here folks. The Heritage Foundation iconic scorecard rates adherence to conservative rectitude nothing else. Now if Taxpayer you have it in your brain that somehow being a on the right makes you more prone to lawbreaking than being on the left that’s a proposition that I have not as yet heard even suggested by the most fevered leftists who have a new preposterous proposition every few days. Personally (sorry Jonathan) I have lived in New York City, Washington, D.C., Schaumburg, Ill, and Akron, Ohio so I find your delusion that the Democrats are paragons of clean government, or clean living, vis-à-vis the Republicans something that provides me with much needed amusement as these dark pandemic days.

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        MARLE says:

        Steven Moore, a darling Honoree of heritage and the co-founder of club for growth JUST yesterday for closing of loopholes and balancing of the budget. Are YOU KIDDING ME??????????? 4 years he served as a Trump sycophant who worked on the 17 Tax Plan that did Neither of those things and NOW he wants to close loopholes (the ones that allow Trump to pay $750 per yr in income taxes) and balance the budget!!!!

        THIS is why these organizations deserve Zero respect. Zero.

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          Stuart I. Anderson says:

          The behavior of Steven Moore and the personal strategic decisions he makes pursuant to his own career has nothing to do with the positions of the Heritage Foundation and the Club For Growth who have always opposed big government and its inevitable big spending financed by big taxes and debt. If Steven Moore wandered away from conservative rectitude by silence in order to ingratiate himself with populists when one would have thought he should speak up then it is up to Steven Moore to explain. Maybe he is recasting himself as a populist. Beats me.

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            MARLE says:

            In that case a reputable org that had firm positions wouldn’t be continuing any relationship with a person who opposed, for 4 years during an economic boom, a balanced budget. They are shifters in the sand and not worth anyone putting any stock in their scoring.

            It matters what pols do when the stakes are high. Mark and Scott voted for another 10 days and Marsha and Haggerty did not. I don’t just care what score Marsha gets for votes she has been allowed to dodge b/c Her vote isn’t necessary to pass a bill. She had a chance to stand with Scott and Mark or they had a chance to see things her way on something pretty significant. Yet they all have high scores

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            Stuart I. Anderson says:

            The scores give a general and in my experience a pretty accurate overview of the voting record of members of a legislature and that’s all they are meant to do. Marsha (Heritage-85%), Marvelous Mark (Heritage-100%!) and Scott DesJarlais (Heritage-87%) are all fine conservatives. How they vote on this or that piece of legislation doesn’t negate the overall picture which I think of as very important.

            When Everett Dirksen caved and promised support for the FEDERAL(!) Open Housing Bill back in the 60’s I vowed never to vote Republican when I got the vote no matter what I was so outraged at Republican support for that piece of legislation. I wasn’t interested in any reasonable facsimile of the Heritage Scorecard I was ranting and raving with anger. That’s a perfectly reasonable position to take if one feels that strongly about a piece of legislation and a legislator’s vote. That in no way sullies the usefulness of the Heritage Scorecard. You are making strong feelings about an individual piece of legislation sort of the enemy of the usefulness of an overview of a legislator’s record. As far as I’m concerned one has little to do with the other.

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    Taxpayer #314 says:

    “The scores give a general and in my experience a pretty accurate overview of the voting record of members of a legislature and that’s all they are meant to do.”
    Maybe Stewart, “your experience” is not up to par!! I fail to see how a high number of people with high scores from some partisan group of right wing politicians would not be indicative of their character and moral beliefs if they went to jail for acting on those beliefs. I would like to see the numbers, I think it may tell a story that badly needs to be told about the GOP. When trump’s tangled story is finally understood and told along-side the very emphatic republican enablers that made it possible no one will think it was possible. Every day more and more people turn away from trump and the GOP in disgust, when they realize how badly they have been duped by the consortium of lies.

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      Stuart I. Anderson says:

      I think we can simply chalk it up to differences in experience. “Power tends to corrupt and absolute power tends to corrupt absolutely” Lord Acton said. If you have spent your adult life mainly in places where Republicans are in power and Democrats have little or none, then it will be Republicans who are dragged off to jail. Do you remember the Tennessee Waltz corruption scandal when the FBI descended on the Tennessee Capitol just as the General Assembly was ending its 2005 business and State Sen. John Ford (D-Memphis) and other Democrats were led away in handcuffs at a time when the Democrats were in power?

      You saw the liberal cities or suburbs of liberal cities I lived in which the Democrats were in power where if there was any corruption it inevitably was committed by a Democrat. Taxpayer, that’s one of the reasons I’m a libertarian conservative who wants government to be kept as small and powerless as possible while still allowing it to fulfill its very limited role in the life of its citizens. The combination of power and control of a great deal of money makes government corruption irresistible to an awful lot of people.

      By all means make a study of comparative corruption between conservatives vs. liberals, Democrats vs. Republicans if you like. Off the top of my head I think you will be disappointed at the results. As for me, I’m a libertarian conservative, I think of government as a necessary evil and I want to keep it as insignificant in the lives of the people as possible. That will go a long way to reduce the power and money in government which I believe will reduce the attraction of government service for the wrong kind of people the ancillary effect of which will reduce corruption.

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    Cryan says:

    I hear Guantánamo is nice this time of year, Lynn Weaver.

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    Jane says:

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/investigations-regarding-violence-capitol

    Well Stu the DOJ is making it easy to keep you updated on the arrests like you asked. Just sort by the entry last updated column and you can see arrests occurring everyday, all over the country. You’re welcome.

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